Do you believe in love? – Atheist Sunday School
28 Sunday Nov 2010
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Do you believe in love? Who’s up for a quick, really quick #AtheistSundaySchool? #atheism #atheist
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
It’s been a while since our last #AtheistSundaySchool in case you missed it www.monicks.net/4024 #atheism #atheist
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
Anyway… Let’s talk about love. Are you guys ready? Do you believe in love? #AtheistSundaySchool #atheism #atheist
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
Theists usually ask atheists if they believe in love. After all, no one can deny that love exists, but no one can prove it exists. #atheism
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
If atheists believe in love, which cannot be proven to exist, that invalidates our argument against God’s existence. #atheism #atheist
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
NOT!
There is nothing contradictory in accepting the existence of love without believing in the existence of god. Why, you ask? #atheism #atheist
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
The analogy fails because ‘love’ and ‘god’ are very different concepts in a fundamental way, and so can’t be compared. #atheism #atheist
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
Love is subjective, a personal state of mind, it exists only in our minds, our personal perceptions of it define its existence… #atheism
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
But love is not *supposed* to exist anywhere but in our minds, the only evidence for its existence is our perception of it. #atheism
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
god is not subjective. If he exists,he shouldn’t just exist in our minds, his nature should not be defined by our perception of him #atheism
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
Subjective sensations can be evidence for a subjective experience or feeling (love), but not for an objective being or entity (god) #atheism
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
Love is not supposed to exist anywhere but in personal mental states, which are inherently unverifiable… #atheism
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
Observable chemical reactions are not evidence of love existence. Remember, the brain reacts in the same way to chocolate intake. #atheism
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
god is, allegedly,an objective being w an existence independent of anyone’s thoughts. It’s perfectly appropriate to expect evidence #atheism
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
Whereas we all experience love similarly, the existence of god is an extraordinary claim, not in line with everyone’s experience. #atheism
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
That should have read somewhat similarly.
So, this “god is love” argument, and to say that one exists is to say that the other exists, is just a logical fallacy. #atheism #atheist
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
Ok, I hope you guys enjoyed today’s #AtheistSundaySchool. Thank you all for your mentions and comments. Have a fantabulous day. (◕‿◕)’
— Monica Salcedo (@Monicks) November 28, 2010
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9 comments
January 9, 2011 at 6:18 pm
No.
January 9, 2011 at 8:22 pm
Well… I hope this answer is not the consequence of having your heart broken by some ex significant other.
If so, I’m sorry.
January 9, 2011 at 8:47 pm
No Dear, It’s a result of my experiences and watching the experiences of others. Love is like god in that it is used to keep us in line. “If you don’t buy our soap, You wont get clean and no one will love you.” Love has been used to sell us a bill of goods. If we don’t believe in god we’re threatened with hell, If we don’t believe in love we’re threatened with loneliness. With holding love is a nasty tactic used too often. I cant be hurt by a lack of something that is an arbitrary construct.
I would rather hear someone say;”I really, really like you! Lots!” It would have more meaning…
June 6, 2011 at 12:27 am
Do you believe we as humans can observe through our senses or technology everything that exists in our universe? I think its pretty safe to say most people don’t.
So, my question is, is it possible that GOD exists maybe in one of these “un-observable dimensions” (for lack of a better word) and the only “evidence” for him maybe personal experiences or perceptions just like other “concepts” such as love?
June 19, 2011 at 10:52 am
Then why is there the logo Sharing is Caring?
February 15, 2012 at 2:51 pm
Yes, it is absolutely possible. However, until we find some evidence, there’s no reason to believe such a thing exists, any more than there is reason to believe the flying spaghetti monster or space unicorns. These things *may* exist in some as yet unobserved state, but believing in them before we find any proof of their existence is gullibility.
October 12, 2012 at 8:12 am
Love is a word to describe a feeling, god is a word to describe a ALL POWERFUL CREATOR OF EVERY THING. You might as well say that fear and satan are the same thing. So every time your afraid, its the devil inside, devil inside (INXS).
October 30, 2012 at 3:54 am
Dark matter & dark energy are said to exist and is believed by most scientist, yet there is no proof. Are all these scientist gullible?
January 18, 2013 at 7:31 am
There is plenty of solid groundwork, if you would bother to look. A scientist knows that evidence will change her mind, but a fundamentalist knows nothing will. Religion is a social problem that denies people basic human rights. As far as I know, women aren’t circumcised and gays aren’t killed in the name of dark matter.
If the monotheists’ god DOES exist…why worship it anyway? It’s a shit.