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This is the full speech by Richard Dawkins at the “Protest The Pope” rally, 18th September 2010. (unedited)
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Pope Benedict XVI’s astronomer: the Catholic Church welcomes aliens
Brother Guy Consolmagno is curator of the Pope’s meteorite collection Photo: AP Photo/Plinio LepriThe senior Vatican scientist, Brother Guy Consolmagno, said that he would be delighted if we encountered intelligent aliens and would be happy to baptise them.
His pronouncement opens up the possibility of space missionaries heading out to the stars to convert aliens to Christianity.
Speaking on the eve of addressing the British Science Festival, Dr Consolmangno said he had no problem with science and religion co-existing together.
But he dismissed Creationism and claimed that the revival of “intelligent design” – the controversial theory that only God can explain gaps in the theory of evolution – was “bad theology”.
Dr Consolmango is one of a team of 12 astronomers working for the Vatican, said the Catholic Church had been supporting and funding science for centuries.
He said he was “comfortable” with the idea of alien life and asked if he would baptise an alien, he replied “Only if they asked”.
“I’d be delighted if we found life elsewhere and delighted if we found intelligent life elsewhere,” he said.
“But the odds of us finding it, of it being intelligent and us being able to communicate with it – when you add them up it’s probably not a practical question.
“God is bigger than just humanity. God is also the god of angels.”
He said the characteristics synonymous with having a soul – intelligence, free will, freedom to love and freedom to make decisions may not be unique to humans.
“Any entity – no matter how many tentacles it has has a soul,’ he said.
However machines were unlikely to be smart or human-enough to have souls.
Dr Consolmango, 57, the curator of the Pope’s meteorite collection, is a trained astronomer and planetary scientist at the Vatican’s observatory.
He worked as a scientist in California for 15 years before turning to the church.
He said “intelligent design” had been “hijacked” by religious fundamentalists.
“The word has been hijacked by a narrow group of Creationist fundamentalists in America to mean something it did not originally mean at all.
“It’s another form of the God of the gaps,” he said.
‘It’s bad theology in that it turns God once again into the pagan god of thunder and lightning.’
The phrase ‘Intelligent Design’ was centuries old and described the idea that God could be discovered in the laws of space and time and the existence of human reason..
The Vatican was ‘very aware’ of what was going on in the world of science, he added.
The Pontifical Academy of Science, of which Stephen Hawking is a member, kept the senior cardinals and the Pope up-to-date with the latest scientific developments, he said.
The discovery of aliens would raise huge theological problems for the Roman Catholic church that would make the debate over women priests, clerical abstinence and contraception pale into insignificance.
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6 adults, 8 children plan mass suicide ‘Cult-like’ group ‘awaiting the rapture’
Police alert: 6 adults, 8 children plan mass suicide
‘Cult-like’ group ‘awaiting the rapture’ after Palmdale, Calif., church service
PALMDALE, Calif. — Officials in Southern California on Saturday evening issued an emergency alert for six adults and eight children in a “cult-like” group believed to be planning a mass suicide.
“They were awaiting the rapture or some other catastrophic event,” Los Angeles County Sheriff’s captain Mike Parker said.
Steve Whitmore, sheriff’s spokesman, at a hastily called news conference shown covered by KNBC Channel 4 of Los Angeles late Saturday, said the group believed “they were going to meet Jesus or deceased relatives.”
He said deputies were searching the Palmdale Desert area for the group, believed to be six adults, including men and women, and six boys and two girls.
The notes did not use the term suicide, but did say “they wanted to go on to the next life,” Whitmore said.
The group apparently belonged to three families, possibly all were Salvadoran, he said.
They were at what is believed to be a fundamentalist church with a close-knit organization, Whitmore said.
The group from Palmdale was believed to be traveling in three vehicles, a 2004 Nissan Quest, a 1995 Mercury Villager and a silver Toyota Tundra pickup, the California Highway Patrol said.
However, the members may have changed vehicles after disappearing, the CHP told msnbc.com.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department confirmed to KNBC, Channel 4, news late Saturday that its detectives were actively investigating the case.
Two husbands of two of the church members reported the persons missing at around 2 p.m. PDT, BNO News said.
Parker said one of the men had a purse he was asked to hold by one of the group members, and inside were identifications, deeds to property, and letters indicating they were awaiting the end of the world.
Parker said the group’s leader, Reyna Chicas of Palmdale, is among the missing.
Officials earlier reported nine children missing, but later revised the count to eight.
The missing group was last seen around 1 a.m. PDT on Saturday at a prayer meeting at a Palmdale church, according to the CHP.
“It is believed, through further investigation, that the missing persons’ intentions are to commit mass suicide,” the CHP said.
via msnbc.msn.com